@frameacloud If by "vivid inner world" you mean what it evokes in me, namely the exploration of one's own mind by means of artistic visualization, "active imagination", meditation etc, then my answer is: Go for it! It is a source of power and insight, not a drain, in my experience.

@KawaSeadrake @frameacloud I think if I had to leave Lemnos in this state, or if I'd had to leave any of my other homes behind before I was ready, I'd have gone mad.

Honestly, it takes more power some times to shut it all down and push it aside, to translate out of it all when that's the frame that's most dominant.

@orrery @frameacloud I can see that too, and it jogs something else into my personal framing thereof.

Parts of my paracosm come almost effortlessly, but when I have to deliberately manifest something, it DOES take -quite- a bit of energy. That said, once it's persistent, -it's persistent-. Holding the doors open, so to speak, doesn't tax me beyond that initial ritual.

@frameacloud The energy thing's a bit more problematic because most think of it as consuming energy. Nix. It's only about the amount of energy you keep stored.

Maybe think of it as voltage not current.

You need stored energy, voltage, to push the threads of the fabric of the universe into a paracosm. What you do stays done at that point in time.

To return to the paracosm and have it continue to be available now, at your current point of the vector, needs stored energy.

If your battery goes flat you won't be able to get back there, it doesn't stop it existing independently of you though.

@frameacloud @sophieactual I feel this is only partly true. I think it's like dynamic memory, it needs periodic refreshing. but I agree that the overall current draw can be quite low

*modifying* the subcreation, however...that can be exhausting.

@kara @frameacloud We politely, gently disagree but Malkuth'ing the concept is difficult.

Dream constructs aren't a direct analogue of the physical, their time flows differently. A thing we construct physically has continuity in time, for a while anyway.

A thing we construct in dreamspace exists at a point in time. When we go to it we align the time it was constructed.

We're reasonably sure that one of the problems with lucid dreaming is our inflexible insistence on an incomplete view of time.

@kara @frameacloud The next few toots are going to branch off into our passion for expanding paradigms to their limits, for moving the unknown into the known, so it's going to look very sloppy, it's totally a work in progress. Please add -anything-, or tear it down completely.

The basic premise derives from topology. 1-, 2-, 4-, n-manifolds are "moderately" straight forward. For some reason 3-manifolds get awfully convoluted. Think of Klein bottles, Seifert-Weber space and the like.

@kara @frameacloud When 3-manifolds use a non-linear interstice between index points on one or more vectors - log, hyperbolic, whatever, cool things happen to the visualisations. Dealing with rotating magnetic fields is a classic example.

We think there's an alternating pattern between index points of the definition we'll use next, that aids in visualisation.

@kara @frameacloud The alternating pattern is between a linear flow and a spherical expansion, which is possibly why going from 2- to 3- suddenly gets weird.

If we look at 1- , 2-, and 3-dimensions, time, and dreamspace as sequential index elements on a vector, the interstices alternate between linear flow and spherical expansion, so

1- flows into 2-
2- expands into 3-
3- flows into time
time expands into dreamspace

and conceptually, it keeps going, it's "just" an array after all. The problem with further index elements is our instrumentation, our ability to visualise it.

@kara @frameacloud The "time expands into dreamspace" area is quite cool, it allows looping back in time, modifying something, and forking a new array.

The really cool corollary is that the universe is an incredibly sparse n-array that may randomly produce extraordinary new things from very ordinary sequences of events.

@frameacloud Power-wise, also, "infrastructure" can include power plants, and it can include electric trains that take hefty watts to keep running on time. So the net effect really depends on what you build.

Your Magic May Vary as usual…

@frameacloud I think about Johmarr frequently, and it's... very persistent; I don't forget stuff once I've invented/discovered it, it just becomes part of my memory-bank. same with Norton; although again I have made a deliberate effort to *not* come up with new material for it outside of dreams, I revisit and add/revise it in dreams (without doing it lucidly/intentionally) about... twice a month?

@frameacloud I don't seem to have any appreciable energy cost to maintain these things, and I didn't when I was seeing the woo-world all the time. the more attention I put into them, the more absorbing they are, but that's true of every sufficiently complex thing--reading, writing, playing a game, watching an ongoing TV series. it's just, orthocosms don't have an externally-set endpoint, so I can just keep them going indefinitely.

@frameacloud but again, I have been told repeatedly that I am unusual in this respect. for me, any kind of imaginative effort is--almost effortless, once begun. it may be difficult for me to maintain my attention, but that's a matter of interest and training for me.

so my answer is it very much depends on the person, but it seems likely that it's also something that can be trained into greater capacity, like exercise or learning a skill.

@eredien This makes me super curious about what your paracosm is like!

@frameacloud I'd love to talk about it with you sometime.