Thanks to @rabid_cowolf@twitter.com I now have a link to Patreon's new fee structure. 

patreon.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a

Apparently every pledge is now gonna get service fees tacked on top, instead of coming out of my cut: 2.9%+35¢ extra for every patron.

The big question for me is how they calculate this for pay-per-thing creators like me. If I make eight things a month, is a $1 patron going to pay

($1+2.9%+.35)*8 things = $11.032

or

($1*8 things)+2.9%+.35 = 8.582 ?

Their page on this sure does make it sound like it's the first, which... I dunno, it feels like they're nickel-and-diming everyone here? Maybe that 2.9%+35¢ fee should be calculated on the sum total of ALL of the pledges you're paying this month instead of applied to every single pledge separately?

We shall see, I suppose. And I will probably hear about this second-hand since they couldn't be bothered to send me any email about this.

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Patreon is definitely hitting per-thing creators hard. 

Okay so Patreon has updated the FAQ on their new fee structure, and:

Q: How does this impact me as a per-post creator?

A: As a per-post creator, your patrons will see the 2.9% + $0.35 service fee added to all paid posts. For example, if you are a per post creator making two paid posts per month, your patrons will be charged 2.9% + $0.35 for each paid post.

Their example is a $5 pledge on a month you made two things, which is now two $5.50 pledges. Which is... I guess it's an *average* pledge but more than 50% of my backers are pledging $1.

So consider the case of a $1 pledge, with ten things made in a month (which is much closer to my numbers, and probably most webcomics folks'):

($1+2.9%+35¢) = $1.379
$1.379 * 10 = $13.79

versus

($1*10)+2.9%+35¢ = 10.64

...and what the hell Patreon why are your processing fees suddenly so huge now where are those going ffs.

Patreon is definitely hitting per-thing creators hard. 

@anthracite HOLY MOLY NO this is very very bad? I thought it would be per month, like, if I made two comics the fee would be applied to the pledges for that month as a whole. GOOD LORD.

Patreon is definitely hitting per-thing creators hard. 

@cassolotl yeah this basically feels like a giant fuck you to moderately prolific per-thing creators.

Patreon is definitely hitting per-thing creators hard. 

@anthracite Definitely. :(

Patreon is definitely hitting per-thing creators hard. 

@anthracite My cynical thought: There's something about $1 pledges that they don't want/like. It's not enough to just disable them, but they definitely want them gone...so they wrap it up like they're giving creators more money! How gracious of them!

Or they just want more money, realized most people pledge a dollar, and decided to stick their arm a little deeper.

Patreon is definitely hitting per-thing creators hard. 

@anthracite Keep in mind part of those processing fees are Patreon’s profit. They’re unfortunately a business just like every other. Switching the fees can be seen as more transparent even though edge cases like this allow them to actually take more money out of the pockets of donors.

Patreon is definitely hitting per-thing creators hard. 

@packetcharmer yeah, this is true. I need to do all the math on exactly how much more Patreon is taking here - [this person](pretty-terrible.com/funny-mone) did more math than I did, and it sure looks like Patreon is taking a LOT more from multiple pledges with this new scheme.

I really don't like the way they're now wrapping "payment processor's cut" and "patreon's cut" up into one number. Makes it a lot harder to compare the new numbers to the old.

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