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Kickstarter is launching a Patreon-like service. This should be interesting.

theverge.com/2017/11/15/166525

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The big thing about this, from my point of view, is that Kickstarter is formally incorporated as a Public Benefit Corporation. Basically this means they are *not* required to put increasing shareholder value ahead of all other goals, like the average corporation.

I don't know if I'll try to move over from Patreon to Kickstarter's Drip, but I sure as hell am glad to see something with the financial and brand power of KS out there to keep Patreon honest. Patreon has been pretty creator-focused so far, but they're still an Inc as far as I know - which means they're potentially only one regime change away from GOAL 1: MAXIMIZE SHAREHOLDER VALUE.

@anthracite Public-benefit corporations are a specific type of corporation that allow for public benefit to be a charter purpose in addition to the traditional corporate goal of maximizing profit for shareholders.[

@anthracite Kickstarter doesn't have shareholders? I hadn't realized that.

@sikkdays They have 'em. Or at least they did when they changed from a normal corporation to a PBC, according to [their post about it.](kickstarter.com/blog/kickstart)

They just aren't their #1 priority.

(They also make *fistfuls* of money with their little 5% off the top of every project that goes through them.)

@anthracite Patreon is also pretty heavily biased toward people who produce video. It does not play well with more than 1-2 paragraphs of text, and it doesn't do anything special for audio.

@Riley I've been pretty happy with Patreon as a comics creator, actually - when I was cranking out pages regularly, it was paying most of my rent by drawing a comic about a lesbian robot with Philip K Dick problems!

Well, except for the part where they constantly sent out chirpy emails telling me the Way to Success was Make More Videos!, which, ugh no. They quit doing that after a while, I suspect I wasn't the only non-video creator grumbling about that.

I also host my comics on my own site; Patreon just provides money for me, not a full-service MONETIZED WEB PRESENCE.

@anthracite I was referring more to the horribly broken text editor that can't handle pasted text and sometimes spikes the CPU to 100% and falls behind my typing by a paragraph.

@anthracite It just has a lot of little rough edges for everything except video, while it has a tremendous amount of polish for the video experience.

@Riley @anthracite patreon has a built in podcast player and RSS stream links, actually

@anthracite Did Patreon decide whether erotic content is still allowed or not, or are they still refusing to say exactly?

@CeruleanK I'm not sure; I haven't been keeping track. The latest stories I get with a quick google for 'patreon and porn' are all articles from Oct17, about how terrible this new no-porn regime will be.

@anthracite Honestly can't see many downsides to this. More ways to support artists are always a benefit, especially - /especially/ these days.

@anthracite that’s awesome! i’ll definitely be keeping an eye on this.